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Proposed flags of Norway (1821)[edit]

Flag of Norway
Could someone please create SVG files of the above proposals for the flag of Norway from 1821. More information on them can be seen on this page here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinions
@Snow Lion Fenian:
Other source images can be found at Forslag til flagg, for year 1821. Those are same images, but with layout paper for color expectation. En rouge (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the second (2nd) proposal can simply be made by taking the flag of the Dominican Republic (or "Santo Domingo") and removing the coat of arms. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:39, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by En rouge (talk) 22:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

to be progressively completed...
@Snow Lion Fenian:
before completing ornaments on flags, please tell me if you have some comments/requirements, essentially about aspect ratio, line width, colors, or...
yours, En rouge (talk) 02:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@En rouge: Those all seem nicely in order, thank you for doing this. I'd say it's okay to go ahead and add the extra symbols on each one. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply], 10 September 2021

two comments
- 10 doesn't use this strange color, but only yellowed material.
- 14 does not present Scandinavian cross, only a very thick Saint George's Cross

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@ , please, can you give references for your arguments :
  • for 10: yellow rather than olive (as seen in 04 & (ref.1)
but in (ref.1), we can see differences between mast color (yellow-ish) and flag color (olive-ish)... what are your sources?
but I can agree with you, as for #10, I think viewed-black is blue instead, but I have no source...
I think it's the same (blue instead of black) for 6 & 7 (painted source images give me this feeling), as well as 10 perhaps ;
14 seems really be black (but I've got no other source than the given paper painted flags copy)
  • for 14: do you mean the cross is centered ? do you have a source ?
  • and/or other sources ?
  • for lion's tail, what's the problem ?
the main issue can be inward or outward... whatever the painting/display/rendering...
all pictures are lion-ward (i.e. outward), rather than leopard-ward (inward)
so, what do you mean ?

thanks En rouge (talk) 00:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@En rouge: Given the lack of sources (or indeed responses) from the other User, I think it may be best to proceed with adding the extra symbols to the flags in the best way you see fit yourself. If you're still up for it of course? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 18:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 05:40, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Article(s): en:Hunza (princely state)


1 request is a restore of the old version of incorrect flag [1] sources:[2] [3] [4] ✓ Done

2 request is the addition of the Mir standard [5], which also requires an emblem.

I have not found a reliable source with the correct image of the coat of arms, but it was certainly a lion holding flag, with a ribbon on the mast with the word Hunza state and inscription above the flag [6] [7], most likely no formal draft exists.

standard name ,,Flag of Mir of Hunza`` coat of arms name ,,Emblem of Hunza (Kanjut)`` 12.7.2021

Graphist opinion(s)

Emblem of Bombay State, Vindhya Pradesh and Goa, Daman and Diu[edit]

Article(s): w:Vindhya Pradesh w:Bombay State w:Goa, Daman and Diu

please vectorize emblem of Bombay State, Vindhya Pradesh and Goa, Daman and Diu. 1.8.2021

Graphist opinion(s)

One out of three, done. —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 22:10, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vectorize Chinese emblem[edit]

Article(s): 中华人民共和国国务院公报 on Wikisource

Please vectorize the Chinese emblem from the State Council Gazette included above. The emblem should have a single red color. --Kanwenjian (talk) 02:35, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

@Kanwenjian: This looks like it's just the normal Emblem of the PRC which is already on commons... are you looking for something different? Wegates (talk) 19:05, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Wegates: , Wikisource tries to as faithfully reproduce documents as possible, in this case it's that emblem but only in red and white. It's like comparing "File:Coat of arms of the Republic of Vietnam (1967-75) (Variant 1).svg" to "File:Coat of arms of the Republic of Vietnam (1963–1975) (Red).svg", the latter would be usable in Wikisource documents where the coat of arms only appears in red like the above. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:13, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Wegates: , yes please I would like the emblem but only in red and white (or transparent for the white parts). Kanwenjian (talk) 07:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vector diagrams for linear patterns of the skin[edit]

Article(s): en:Langer's lines, en:Blaschko's lines, en:Dermatome (anatomy)

I think it would be nice to have standardized vector images for the three common linear patterns of the skin (i.e., Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines, and dermatomes). This article has diagrams of all three of them, but you may want to look at several images for each because there's some variability between different representations.
As far as the styles of the illustrations, the format of side-by-side anterior and posterior views is the most common.
From a scientific standpoint, one important consideration to remember is that Langer's lines represent a vector field of skin tension, while Blaschko's lines and dermatomes are used to demarcate particular segments of skin. In other words, for Langer's lines, the lines themselves are what's important, while for Blaschko's lines and dermatomes, it's the segments of skin between the lines that are important. This should influence the choice of coloring style. I think it's going to be too complicated to accurately color Langer's lines and I haven't found any images attempting it, so those don't need to be colored. For the other two, the segments should be colored (we don't even technically need lines between them if the contrast between the colors is enough to see the boundaries between the segments, but I'll defer to your judgement on that). The unique thing about Blaschko's lines is that they have a directionality to them, from back to front (i.e., wrapping around from spine to navel), from medial to lateral (shoulders to fingers) and from top to bottom (hips to toes). The image here may show the directionality a bit better for the legs. I'm not sure what the best way to show the directionality of the segments will be, but perhaps shading them so the beginning is more saturated than the end. Dermatomes should be filled with color according to the level of the nerves innervating them, as shown here.
Thanks, and happy to discuss further. --Rob Hurt (talk) 00:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Graphist opinion(s)

Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
@Rob Hurt: I will really need your help all the way here. So you want three different images each representing different lines; Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines, and dermatomes. So first we will have to find a body illustration that can be used for them all. After that I will check more into each and will for sure have questions. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:10, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Base bodies[edit]

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@Rob Hurt:
@Goran tek-en: No problem. Yes, let's do three separate images. I think that image is good, but it might be nice to have one with feet pointed down so you can see the top and bottom, and with no hair on the head. There are a few sex differences, but let's use a gender-neutral body for simplicity. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt:
  • Will it not be hard to have gender-neutral body when doing Langer's lines (haven't checked for the others), to my understand they are following the topographic of a body.
  • I have started to make SVG version of this file:Human Body.jpg because I thought we could do both woman and man, I know it's more work but will it not be better?
  • For the feet, do you mean like those two: top, bottom. That will mean the bodys will be like floating in the air. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 21:14, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I would be ok with doing either both or gender neutral. In all cases, I'm remembering that these don't need to have the accuracy of a medical textbook, but are more for the public to get a general understanding of the concepts. So I would be inclined to air on the side of simplicity and interpretability even at the cost of some accuracy, but that's just my opinion. And yes, floating in the air like here. --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Yes, I will not over do it (try to). The image you linked to is that the Langer's lines? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:32, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I certainly appreciate the attention to detail, and I think we'll have to decide what compromises to make. In order, these are Langer's lines, dermatomes, and Blaschko's lines. --Rob Hurt (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Before I continue I want to check how you want the bodies to look. One is lines and one is shaded for the volume (I know, too much details.) Tell me which you want or maybe both because ones I have made the bodies and the three different lines it's quite easy to move between the two versions.
@Goran tek-en: I think these look good, and the shaded one perhaps looks a bit more professional, as long as those colors don't end up conflicting with the colors used for the skin lines. I'm in favor of making the illustrations look professional though. Do you have the back of the body too? --Rob Hurt (talk) 17:30, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: Thanks, yes I have back and front back of male also. I will be back when I have done them all (bodies), might take a while. Of course I will see to so the lines will be visible. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt: Now I finally have the drafts for the bodies, sorry it took so long.

We now (if those are fine with you) have to decide how you want the bodies:
1 Standing all four in one image, A
2 Standing all four in one image but half-half bodies so they would become two, like the images you linked to at the top
3 Lying female respectively male in each image, C and D
4 3 but as half-half and then we can have them without an offset
5 Or any other version you want
To really see their real sizes you would have to download them and look at them in a software that tells the level of zoom.
I think like this, most screens are in landscape and I try to keep the height of images to a maximum of 1 000 px. The 1 000 px is something I assume many screens can view (in a browser window) without having to scroll, to view the whole image. To be able to view as much details as possible I try to keep to this. It's always a problem as you don't know how an image will be consumed but the main target here is within an article at wikipedia but I always try to make them work as a free standing image which can be used in different places and circumstances, this is of course impossible but I try.
So give me feed back and we discuss how to set them up, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en: I think these look great, and my preference is A. You're making these as vector images, right, so we can arbitrarily adjust the scaling at any point? The more I think about it, the more I think that we should also have a gender-neutral version, just in case someone ever wants to use these images in a classroom or a news article. --Rob Hurt (talk) 21:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt:
  • Sorry for not being clear, it's SVG I work in, the drafts are PNG due to rendering limitations where I show my drafts.
  • So they can be scaled to what ever one wants. But, this is in theory and technically. From a view point line thickness, spaces, relationship of stuff has to be edited when scaling much, both up and down. It's the same as text, a 20 pt (or px or what you use) sentence which is scaled to e.a. 180 pt has to be edited letter by letter (the distance between them) to look good.
  • A gender-neutral version is something we will have to discuss after female, male is completed. I have some reservations and points of opinion there.
  • Could you link me to a few of the best images you know of regarding Langer's lines, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt: I have now uploaded the base bodies as a separate file Female-male front-back 3d-shaded human illustration. Could you please check the information on it and especially the credit part with you. Do you want it in any other way just tell me, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en: I think that file looks great, and thanks for crediting me too. I think it could also be worth posting separate versions of the male and female bodies in case someone wants to use only one of them for something specific. --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Yeas I think so too, will do in time. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:45, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Look at Female-male front-back 3d-shaded human illustration and Other versions, there are the versions I created. I also think I will create a Gallery for those, I'm learning about it as I intend to create some for "image sets" I have created.
I have made a change which I hope you approve. I made the female and male the same height, this so when they are used they will work well together e.g. Langer's lines. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 13:20, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Langer's lines[edit]

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Rob Hurt, Could you link me to a few of the best images you know of regarding Langer's lines, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:51, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en: Sure, here are a few. I think this, this, this and this ( should be your references because they are based on the experimental data. But for the ease of interpretability, this, this, this, and this are illustrated in a more viewer-friendly way. --Rob Hurt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I hope you don't get tired of all my questions. I will here describe how I'm thinking around this and if there is something you don't agree with please let me know.
When I look at your linked images and others I searched for, it confuses me. The lines and the patterns they create are so different in the images. The way they follow the body and how. It also varies depending how close (detailed) they show them. So depending on how large, detailed the illustration is the more or less lines are used. It also seems to me that there is not a fix distance between the lines, within a specific illustration, they vary over the body.
To me, the way they are drawn more looks like tattoos than lines following the body.
So I'm thinking like this, imagine you use a string e.g. clothesline with a diameter and you glue that on the body where the lines exist. This also gives me the possibility to show that the lines actually follow the body around the edges to the back.
  • This is the way how I have drawn the drafts. Look at this draft which is in 400% and hopefully you will see what I mean. To me, this looks much better as an illustration but I'm not sure it's acceptable for you.
  • The drafts I will show you (not the final version) will look like those. As always they are PNG but the original file is SVG.
The difference to the final version is that I manually have edited the lines where they go around the body. It's not that visible directly but indirectly it gives you a better illustration, and that you can sense.
I actually would see that we could find a way so that the image size could be like the 200% drafts, but will see. Feedback before I continue, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 16:02, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Do you have the possibility to respond to the above, thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 11:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en Just to clarify, you want to decide whether the lines should be 3D and sit on top of the skin like string, or 2D and just mark the surface? I think that 2D would be better, because it makes it clearer that the lines are actually part of the skin itself (even though we can't see them with our eyes). They represent the direction of skin tension which is continuous, so you could draw infinitely many lines to represent it. I think for this purpose we should just make sure that the lines are reasonably accurate, and that we don't put so many that the image has more visual complexity than it needs to. Rob Hurt (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Thanks for your explanation, I will do what you think is best for the purpose of those illustrations. In my "world" (I see most things as an image, which I want to be as beautiful as possible) I would prefer 3D but this request is yours and you know best what you need.
  • Are the number of lines I have in the draft fine or do you want fewer or more? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 21:40, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Hurt
Rob Hurt

Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are for proofreading only.

I need you to check if the lines ar OK like this in numbers, shapes etc. Please ignore them sticking out here and there, I will fix that ones you have approved them.
If it's fine with you I would like to do one version lying, like this
Looking at the different existing images confuse me a bit as they are so different in how the lines are drawn, so I had to guess a lot and go by my feeling. Feedback thanks. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the density of lines is good, but I might change the color a bit to make them stand out against the skin a bit more. I realize that one of the illustrations (as opposed to the original anatomical images) oversimplified the lines, and they aren't quite right the way you have them. I think this image is the most correct, and I would use that as your guide. You can compare it to the others if you want: if the face is difficult to see in that image, this and this should help, and for the body this may help. You can also find other images, but they should generally agree with the first image. Rob Hurt (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
You should check the number of lines and how they are drawn. The color and how visible they are we can fine tune ones they are fine.
Thanks for telling me "which image is the most correct" as all the versions are so confusing, much appreciated.
The ears are difficult in this scale. If you also can accept the lying ones there we have some more room to fine tune if necessary.
The reason I choose to show the lines like this is because you wrote "that the lines are actually part of the skin itself", but as I said this can be changed later.
As the female breasts are drawn differently in the images I have looked at I have two versions for you to look at.
Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.
@Rob Hurt Added a second ear version. Disregard that the lines are "sticking out", that will be fine tuned ones approved.
@Goran tek-en For the breast, I think these lines are the most correct, which is close to what you have in version 2. For the ears, I think we need to fix the base body's anatomy before fixing the lines--can you make it look more like the ear shown here? Rob Hurt (talk) 21:01, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt You didn't say anything about the other drafts and the lines so I assume that you have approved them.
@Goran tek-en These look good, though I don't think there should be a line on the nipple itself. For the ears, I think we're missing some of the structures (at least antihelix, cymba, cavum, and helix crus), as well as a definition of where the upper part of the tragus meets the helix crus. The rest of the body looks good though. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:03, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I will add as good as I can but we don't have that kind of details for other parts of the body, especially when you consider how big an ear is and in this scale, drafts in 100%. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:56, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt New ear drafts
@Goran tek-en Great, this looks much better. Rob Hurt (talk) 16:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt

@Goran tek-en I think this looks great. Rob Hurt (talk) 23:28, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Then we can start to decide how the lines should appear, meanwhile I will start with the other versions.
The lines can be in any color, thickness and opacity.
I prefer the "overlay" version as here the appearance of the lines are affected by what the body below looks like, in this way the lines becomes more of a part of the body. The grey lines are like rigid and apart of the body, to me. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 10:30, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en I think the thickness looks good, and are you saying that the opacity for the overlay is less than the other? Can you do the gray or a black or blue with slightly more transparency? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:16, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Hurt

Those drafts are PNG versions of the original SVG file I'm working in and will upload to commons.
Those drafts are shown for proofreading only.

The ones I call "overlay" is a "Blend mode" between objects on top of each other, it doesn't specifically has to do with opacity. The top object changes its appearance depending on how light/bright the object below it is.
@Goran tek-en I think the lines look great. Now should we consider adding a gender-neutral version as well? For the color, I like the grey 100 the most out of the ones shown because it's very easy to see. The others may look a bit more natural, but for the purposes of a medical illustration like this, I think the most important thing is the information. What do you think? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt
1) You are the requester and if you say 50 grey 100 is the best for your purpose then we go for that. We can always add another version if wished.
I will need the following;
  • Name of the file
  • Description (/language)
  • Captions/s (/language)
  • Category/ies at commons
  • Structured data/Items portrayed in this file, the Q#.
to be able to upload it at commons. For the different versions it's mostly the name which changes I guess.
2) Gender-neutral version
This is difficult for me. Please remember that English is not my native language.
  • To me we have female and male genders with all possible variations in between, it's not absolutely female or male, it's all variations in between.
  • To not show what we can (all variations) look like is to me to try to "oppress" or "disregard facts" and trying to influence other human beings.
  • How would a "gender-neutral version" look like, which parts is the problem? I think if you ask all the different cultures, religions, country systems, all other groups etc you would get very different answers. So I guess what would be left is an outline contour with flat fill color and how could one depict Langer's lines on that.
So at this time I will not create a "gender-neutral version" for this purpose. I really hope for your understanding so we can continue with your request here. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 12:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en
  • Names: "Langer's lines_male" and "Langer's lines_female" or just "Langer's lines" if you're going to post a version with both
  • Description: Langer's lines represent the direction of skin tension.
  • Caption: Artist's depiction of Langer's lines present in the skin of a human male. -or- Artist's depiction of Langer's lines present in the skin of a human female.
  • Categories: Langer's lines‎
  • Q1591425
I probably should have explained it a bit differently, because we might be talking about two different things. To me, gender-neutral would be the opposite of "all variations in between"--it would actually be the absence of any male/female/in-between information while preserving only the information that is common to both/all (to the best of our ability). This would be done not for the purpose of educating people about gender, but instead for the purpose of educating a wider audience of people about Langer's lines, because there are some contexts in which images like this would be less likely to be used for fear of censorship (I was thinking news articles and some classrooms, though of course not in medical contexts). In those cases, I wanted to give people an option to still use a version that they are comfortable with instead of none at all.
I wanted to explain my view here in case it helps, but if it doesn't resonate with you, then I certainly won't want you to make any illustrations that you disagree with. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rob Hurt Now you can find them here; Langer's lines‎ 3D shaded true SVG. If you don't see any problems there this part should be ✓ Done

  • For the "gender-neutral version" I'm struggling. If you search for "Androgynous human body illustration" there is not much difference to them and what we have, the genital parts are toned down in the ones we have here already. I do understand your point but to me the people censoring stuff like this is living in a world which I don't want to be a part of. And it will be so hard to decide how to look e.g. would male breasts be fine but not female breasts etc. Can we leave it for now and return later on.

Blaschko's lines[edit]

Can you give me a short explanation and link to images which you say is representative for what you want. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 19:02, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goran tek-en Unlike Langer's lines, Blaschko's lines and dermatomes aren't real lines, but instead the regions of skin between the lines are derived from the same embryonic cell (Blaschko's) or are innervated by the same sensory neurons (dermatomes). This means that there is a correct density of lines for both, unlike for Langer's lines. I think this and this are the best images, but here is another. For dermatomes we definitely will want to shade the skin in between lines like here, and technically the same would be appropriate for Blaschko's lines, but we can decide if that will be too visually overwhelming or not. Rob Hurt (talk) 18:34, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Thanks, why are the lines/areas different left and right side of the belly part in the front view? Should they not be more similar? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en That's to demonstrate that the lines are slightly different for each person because of stochasticity during embryonic development--it's actually the same phenomenon that causes stripes on zebras, spots on cats, etc. which aren't identical from one individual to the next and aren't perfectly symmetrical within an individual. In general they should follow the same pattern on both sides, but there is some randomness. Rob Hurt (talk) 23:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt Before I continue I want to check this with you.
  • If you want areas here instead of lines we have to decide that now as it's two completely different ways of drawing and I also want to check if the lines I have here are correct.
@Goran tek-en Yes those lines look good. As for the areas, if we're going to do it, I think we should make all the areas colored/shaded, rather than some shaded and some not, like you have it. The question is how we want to do the coloring/shading. One option would be to have them all the same color, but different shades. Another option would be to have them different colors, like here. But graphic design isn't my specialty, so can you think of any other options we have? Rob Hurt (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt The colored version has another meaning to me, each color show something different than the other colors according to the legend. I think we should try shades ones they are all drawn. But a Blaschko pattern on a human being is a darker color and usual skin color around it. I will do the drawings now, might take a while. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob Hurt I just want you to know that it will be a bit longer before I'm back as I have a difficult period with myself, but I will be back. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 14:41, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Goran tek-en No problem, take your time, and I hope that everything is ok with you. Rob Hurt (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The seal of Lê Thánh Tông[edit]

Article(s): Lê dynasty


Why don't ya vectorize the seal? --Baokhang48812002 (talk) 23:52, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)
  • This appears to be a photography of the physical object, and it is used as such in the only article linked to it. what exactly are you looking for? Wegates (talk) 18:49, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Article(s): w:List of Albanian flags

This strange flag of Albania comes from a mistake in an Italian textbook from the 1960s. Rename her, give a more appropriate name. Do not remove, is better to leave the information in the article that it is not real. the image comes from this link [8] 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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added filedescription and move/rename-request, defaked svg ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 09:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Principality of Albania[edit]

Article(s): w:List of Albanian flags

Hi, I need to complete List of Albanian flags with three flags:
  1. Princess' standard (House of Wied) ✓ Done
  2. Crown Prince's standard (House of Wied) ✓ Done
  3. Civil ensign (1914–1925) ✓ Done

necessary components on top (warning:the crown is different)

source [9] 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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does it contain the correct crowns? --Mrmw (talk) 08:27, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have nowhere found the right image, looks like the one in the first image, but in the open version. 15:39 16 December 2021 (UTC)
i created svgs with missing crowns to be inserted --Mrmw (talk) 13:23, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Crown in Crown Prince's standard [10] in the best quality I found. Princess' standard - in fact it is the same crown as in the first graphic, but in silver and without a star. Thank you for your help 15:15 17 December 2021 (UTC)
i updated one file with crown - perhaps you can pick the correct crown for the other file out of Category:SVG coat of arms elements - crowns --Mrmw (talk) 20:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately there is no such crown, House of Weid ruled for only a few years and there is little data. 21:48 17 December 2021 (UTC)
it seems this deleted file (File:Principality of Albania (Crown Prince's standard).svg) is/was a better version of the missing file (Wilhelm of Wied) - see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Principality of Albania (Crown Prince's standard).svg - a preview of deleted file is still in google, if you search pictures and use the previously named filename --Mrmw (talk ) 23:13, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was here once... deviantart and Pinterest 12:26 20 December 2021 (UTC)
yes, exactly - this is the deleted file on commons - i added last crown ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Military and police emblems of French-aligned Vietnam[edit]

Article(s): en:Vietnamese National Army, en:Provisional Central Government of Vietnam, Etc.

Hello fellow Wikimedians… According to Hubert de Vries' De Roode Leeuw website's entry on "South Vietnam" there have been separate insignia and badges of historical Vietnamese armed forces and police forces, I have listed them here:

I have looked for free examples of these images for months but haven't been able to locate any scans with them or any other 2D illustrations, so I closed an older request as that one already has an illustration used on Wikipedia but none of these do. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 15:15, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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fascist flags 1/4[edit]

Article(s): List of fascist movements by country U–Z

I agonized over these requests, but better handle it quickly. I would like to complete list of fascist movements about the symbols of these organizations:
  1. National Revival of Poland National Revival of Poland
  2. Identity Evropa Identity Evropa
  3. French Nationalist Party French Nationalist Party
  4. Lithuanian National Union Lithuanian National Union
  5. Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan*
  6. American Front American Front
  7. Anti-Communist Action 1 Anti-Communist Action
  8. Anti-Communist Action 2
  9. Jaysh al-Ummah (Gaza) Jaysh al-Ummah (Gaza)
  10. ELAM (Cyprus) ELAM (Cyprus)
  11. Eidgenössische Sammlung Eidgenössische Sammlung
  • Exist PNG version, but it is inaccurate

all links come from this site [11] 20:43 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by Mrmw (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 09:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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fascist flags 2/4[edit]

Article(s): List of fascist movements by country U–Z

I agonized over these requests, but better handle it quickly. I would like to complete list of fascist movements about the symbols of these organizations:

Svoboda (political party) and The III. Path 21:01 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by Mrmw (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 09:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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fascist flags 3/4[edit]

Article(s): List of fascist movements by country U–Z

I agonized over these requests, but better handle it quickly. I would like to complete list of fascist movements about the symbols of these organizations:

Union of Bulgarian National Legions, Italian Social Movement, Vanguard America, People's Party Our Slovakia (New Flag), National Vanguard (Italy), New Force (Italy), Nacionalni stroj, National Democratic Party of Germany (alternate), National Christian Party, Free German Workers' Party, National Front (UK) 21:28 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by Mrmw (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 09:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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fascist flags 4/4[edit]

Article(s): List of fascist movements by country U–Z

I agonized over these requests, but better handle it quickly. I would like to complete list of fascist movements about the symbols of these organizations:

Ukrainian National Union (political party), Hutaree, National Youth, The Base (hate group), National Union of Greece, New Triumph Party, Freethinkers' Party, Tacuara Nationalist Movement 21:45 20 December 2021 (UTC)
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Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by Mrmw (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 09:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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coats of arms and flags proposed by Wilhelm Solf for the German colonies in 1914[edit]

Article(s): w:Armorial_of_Germany#Colonies and w:List_of_national_flag_proposals

The coats of arms and flags proposed by Wilhelm Solf for the German colonies in 1914.
These coats of arms and flags have been on the internet for a very long time and nobody to my knowledge has taken a crack at vectorizing them, would be mighty nice and helpful for any projects if someone tidied them up. -- NorthTension (talk) 18:04, 22 December 2021 (UTC)) 22:21, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan[edit]

Article(s): Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan 08:59 28 December 2021 (UTC)

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if you provide text and fontname, i perhaps could finish the last arabic flag - i also asked in ar-wiki

--Mrmw (talk) 15:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Complete Axum Oblsisk[edit]

Article(s): For use in multiple logo vector graphics

Could someone complete the entire Axum obelisk from the PDRE emblem? Here's a drawing of the obelisk. --Ue3lman (talk) 18:43, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Adding translations to existing SVG graphic[edit]

Article(s): those in d:Q648037 and probably more

The graphic exists in 4 languages (en, de, fr, ro), but the following translations should be added:
--2001:67C:10EC:574F:8000:0:0:A 01:18, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Mrmw, Kikuyu3, Leyo, Antonsusi, and Victor P.: Notifying users who contributed versions of the graphic. 2001:67C:10EC:574F:8000:0:0:46 23:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally, one does not need to know SVG to add translations using SVG Translate:
A direct link with the requested file:
However, this file uses a planar translation (a switch per language) rather than translation units (a switch per phrase).
The best approach would convert the file to translation units.
Glrx (talk) 01:25, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Phab:T298811 Glrx (talk) 21:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Stock-brush-red.svg Request taken by Mrmw (talk) 23:07, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Glrx, Kikuyu3, Leyo, Antonsusi, and Victor P.: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 15:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, also for adapting the existing translations for de and fr. I added the graphic to the four other Wikipedias that have an article on PFASs (es, fi, nl, pl). --Leyo 22:35, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Poland[edit]

Article(s): Articles related to Poland

Is it possible to fix up this coat of arms a little, (here (p. 9) is how it should look. Now there are some flaws:
  1. There's wrong type of crown.
  2. Bottom of the shield isn't pointy and while it looks like that in a source provided, I think it was just accidently cropped.
  3. Some weird stains on the beak, crown and talons
  4. It would be good to revectorize the edges of eagle and shield itself, they kinda look bad when zoomed in

However do not change colours. Even if they are different on the official document, on the very next page (10) there are specifications on the exact shades of colors white and red, which after conversion to SRGB are #E9E8E7 and #D4213D. (You can change them if in the svg file there are different colors, but for me it seems just like the SRGB colors I gave). For this same reason I would leave yellow same. Even though it's lighter in the document, you can see that white and red are also lighter than the specification)--Piotr Bart (talk) 18:57, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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That version is clearly a traced SVG, it is overly large and rarely used. File:Herb Polski.svg is more commonly used.--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 19:58, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add Seoul location to Korea DMZ.svg[edit]

Article(s): Korea DMZ.svg is currently on large number of wikipedia pages

Add Seoul location to Korea DMZ.svg
After all, it's an important detail, well within the range of modern artillery. Even just a dot will do. Good job for a SVG beginner. --2001:14BA:9C36:5100:0:0:0:8C3 08:07, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 10:24, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

changing out a copyvio[edit]

Swap out the image on the left of the second last row to File:Lima Peru City Skyline.jpg. ----Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PawełMM: Can you take a look at this? --Minorax«¦talk¦» 14:55, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Minorax: I made a new collage. I replaced the photo as suggested. PawełMM (talk) 16:08, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@PawełMM: Thanks!. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 16:31, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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PDF image crop[edit]

Article(s): s:ru:Александр Дмитриевич Градовский

Please crop this PDF image (only white piece). Unfortunately, I couldn't make it by CropTool. Thanks in advance --Ratte (talk) 10:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Should the white part also be corrected to become really white? - Gabuxae (talk) 12:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Gabuxae: I think it's better to cut the white part away. There's no need in it at all. Ratte (talk) 12:27, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm about inner part which is currently light-yellow. - Gabuxae (talk) 12:30, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fix two invalid SVGs[edit]

Please fix the two invalid SVGs. I tried adding xlmns because I've seen another editor do that before and it has helped. It didn't help with the RSVG rendering of these SVGs though, only the browser rendering. --Jonteemil (talk) 15:29, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I added the namespace to the first, and it now renders. Why are you trying to vectorizze a photograph? It makes a huge SVG file that is a poor copy of the original. The 10 MB image may be too complicated to render in the allotted time. Glrx (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Glrx: Thanks for fixing the first one, do you think you can fix the second one as well? These are not my files so any questions regarding why anyone would need them you should ask the uploader.Jonteemil (talk) 17:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonteemil and Mrmw: Sorry, but I did not have time to fix the second this morning (I was running out the door, and MW was taking for ever to render the image). Mrmw came to our rescue and fixed the second file by adding the namespaces. You had the correct diagnosis. Glrx (talk) 02:36, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Combine Star of Ishtar with Lion and sun[edit]

Article(s): No article, userpages of Iranian-Iraqis, like as Top icon

How about changing the sun from Lion and sun with Star of Ishtar to make a symbol for Iranian-Iraqi users? Currently both symbols are not formal, but still national. So, it's a nice way to show the user really is from both nation. Thanks all. … --Ruwaym (talk) 13:36, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Ruwaym: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 21:41, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Please overwrite this fake SVG with proper vector graphics. I don't know myself how to do it well. It's used on over 150 pages throughout the wikiverse and it looks like a pretty simple image so if you can fix it it would be good. Jonteemil (talk) 19:34, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Jonteemil: there is already a superseded file as real svg - i replaced it in two templates:
--Mrmw (talk) 21:18, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect, thanks.Jonteemil (talk) 22:08, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request to crop HSLU 2022 logo.svg[edit]

Please crop the lower part od the Image. Sorry, I have no tool/experience to do it by my own. --Alpöhi (talk) 09:35, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Alpöhi: ✓ Done--Mrmw (talk) 11:34, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Article(s): w:List of Boruto: Naruto Next Generations episodes

If someone experienced could covert this to SVG, that'd be great. 1989 (talk) 09:42, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Flag of Hœdic[edit]

Article(s): Hœdic and List of Breton flags

Can someone please create an SVG file of the flag of the island of Hœdic, as seen here. As you can see, it would include both the island's coat of arms and the French tricolour, provided above for anyone who wishes to try it. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 12:57, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Snow Lion Fenian: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 21:31, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrmw: Great work, and thanks again. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 21:56, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Former flag of the OACPS[edit]

Article(s): Organisation of African, Caribbean and Pacific States and Flags of Africa

Will someone please create an SVG file of the previous flag of the Organisation of African, Caribbean and Pacific States, as seen on this page here, using elements from the current flag provided above. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 13:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@Snow Lion Fenian: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 21:04, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrmw: Thanks for doing this! Although is there any chance that (on the file for the old version of the flag) the circles inside the letters on the could be changed to red with gold latitude/longitude lines (instead of orange and white), as described in the link? Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 22:18, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Snow Lion Fenian: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 06:56, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrmw: That's perfect, and thanks for helping. Much appreciated. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 13:25, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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SVG of Royal Standard of Lesotho (1966–1987 incorrect version)[edit]

Article(s): en:Flag of Lesotho

Please create File:Royal Standard of Lesotho (1966–1987 incorrect version).svg, it should look like the 1966–1987 flag with a big white hat with the 1966–2006 coat of arms in the hat like this picture shown above. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 16:35, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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@ColorfulSmoke: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 20:22, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Mrmw: one more thing could you link File:Royal Standard of Lesotho.jpg to File:Royal Standard of Lesotho (1966–1987 incorrect version).svg, thx. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 23:31, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ColorfulSmoke: ✓ Done --Mrmw (talk) 06:52, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional flag of Hatay[edit]

Article(s): Any article this file already appears on.

Could someone please modify the above file for the fictional flag of Hatay, so that it looks more like the way it should, as seen at the top of this photo here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 23:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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